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there were over 200 blacks entered at dalton. billy grooms won there. that was the first time I got to meet andy and look at his birds. he has some great looking birds. I just cant see paying that much and have to sign a contract? they were good looking birds though. unless I start travling that far I probably wont show against andy that much. lol I have my hands full with the comp. around here as it is. several great breeders around here.