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Yes, the basic type is a very broad back,round form when handling the bird and must be very tight! I won the Hardfeather bantam division at our SA champs with the stag in the second pic and the judge told me it was mainly based on the handling of the bird! We do not care much about tails but that is the reason I would like to import OE from USA, mainly to get our over-all appearance of OE balanced!..